Thryx, the Sudden Storm (Card)

Thryx, the Sudden Storm
In 32554 decks 1% of 2723691 decks
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Aug 2, 2024
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4.75% of 8035 decks 382 decks
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54.94% of 688 decks 378 decks
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12% of 268 decks +9% synergy
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5% of 3688 decks +0% synergy
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4% of 399 decks +3% synergy
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3% of 2323 decks -2% synergy
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3% of 268 decks +2% synergy
High Synergy Cards
Imoti, Celebrant of Bounty
45% of 19567 decks +41% synergy
Goreclaw, Terror of Qal Sisma
45% of 19567 decks +41% synergy
Genesis Ultimatum
41% of 8240 decks +36% synergy
Enigma Sphinx
35% of 3652 decks +35% synergy
Garruk's Uprising
51% of 19567 decks +35% synergy
Apex Devastator
37% of 19567 decks +34% synergy
Bloodbraid Elf
35% of 8240 decks +32% synergy
Magister Sphinx
34% of 3652 decks +32% synergy
Chulane, Teller of Tales
37% of 4452 decks +32% synergy
Jegantha, the Wellspring
36% of 1563 decks +30% synergy
Top Cards
Cultivate
66% of 19567 decks +21% synergy
Swords to Plowshares
55% of 8112 decks -8% synergy
Kodama's Reach
54% of 19567 decks +23% synergy
Rampant Growth
46% of 19567 decks +12% synergy
Beast Within
45% of 19567 decks +8% synergy
Path to Exile
42% of 8112 decks -4% synergy
Farseek
42% of 19567 decks +8% synergy
Temur Ascendancy
41% of 8240 decks +27% synergy
Counterspell
41% of 32554 decks -2% synergy
Blasphemous Act
38% of 13430 decks +5% synergy
Game Changers
Cyclonic Rift
17% of 32554 decks -10% synergy
Smothering Tithe
15% of 8112 decks -9% synergy
Rhystic Study
15% of 32554 decks -12% synergy
Vampiric Tutor
10% of 7909 decks -8% synergy
Jeska's Will
9% of 13430 decks -7% synergy
Fierce Guardianship
8% of 32554 decks -10% synergy
Demonic Tutor
8% of 7909 decks -14% synergy
Mystical Tutor
7% of 32554 decks -7% synergy
Ancient Tomb
6% of 32554 decks -4% synergy
Enlightened Tutor
6% of 8112 decks -11% synergy
Creatures
Maelstrom Wanderer
36% of 8240 decks +30% synergy
Etali, Primal Storm
35% of 13430 decks +26% synergy
Hullbreaker Horror
32% of 32554 decks +24% synergy
Shalai, Voice of Plenty
31% of 4452 decks +24% synergy
Surrak Dragonclaw
30% of 8240 decks +24% synergy
Gwenna, Eyes of Gaea
30% of 19567 decks +27% synergy
Etali, Primal Conqueror
29% of 8197 decks +20% synergy
Koma, Cosmos Serpent
26% of 19567 decks +21% synergy
Averna, the Chaos Bloom
26% of 8240 decks +24% synergy
Birds of Paradise
26% of 19567 decks -2% synergy
Marvo, Deep Operative
25% of 5190 decks +24% synergy
Koma, World-Eater
25% of 6380 decks +20% synergy
Omnath, Locus of Rage
24% of 8240 decks +20% synergy
Tatyova, Benthic Druid
24% of 19567 decks +12% synergy
Wrexial, the Risen Deep
24% of 7909 decks +22% synergy
Gyruda, Doom of Depths
24% of 7909 decks +22% synergy
Muldrotha, the Gravetide
23% of 2792 decks +17% synergy
Annoyed Altisaur
23% of 19567 decks +22% synergy
Aurora Phoenix
23% of 13430 decks +22% synergy
Inferno Titan
23% of 13430 decks +22% synergy
Calamity Bearer
23% of 13430 decks +23% synergy
Bloodbraid Challenger
23% of 4351 decks +21% synergy
Ghalta, Primal Hunger
22% of 19567 decks +16% synergy
Nezahal, Primal Tide
21% of 32554 decks +17% synergy
Quakebringer
21% of 13430 decks +20% synergy
Beanstalk Giant
21% of 19567 decks +19% synergy
Sakura-Tribe Elder
21% of 19567 decks +3% synergy
Wild-Magic Sorcerer
20% of 13430 decks +18% synergy
Maelstrom Archangel
20% of 1563 decks +15% synergy
Llanowar Elves
20% of 19567 decks -1% synergy
Sunrise Sovereign
20% of 13430 decks +20% synergy
Stinkdrinker Daredevil
20% of 13430 decks +19% synergy
Beast Whisperer
19% of 19567 decks +8% synergy
Tectonic Giant
19% of 13430 decks +18% synergy
Faeburrow Elder
19% of 4452 decks +8% synergy
Surrak and Goreclaw
19% of 19482 decks +17% synergy
Etherium-Horn Sorcerer
19% of 13430 decks +18% synergy
Kalemne, Disciple of Iroas
19% of 2533 decks +19% synergy
Rashmi, Eternities Crafter
19% of 19567 decks +17% synergy
Noble Hierarch
19% of 4452 decks +3% synergy
Bonecrusher Giant
19% of 13430 decks +18% synergy
Thunderous Snapper
19% of 19567 decks +18% synergy
Kodama of the East Tree
19% of 19567 decks +15% synergy
Brion Stoutarm
19% of 2533 decks +18% synergy
Thundercloud Shaman
19% of 13430 decks +19% synergy
Lochmere Serpent
19% of 7909 decks +18% synergy
Fanatic of Rhonas
19% of 11204 decks +12% synergy
Galadriel, Light of Valinor
18% of 3937 decks +16% synergy
Borderland Behemoth
18% of 13430 decks +18% synergy
Troyan, Gutsy Explorer
18% of 16788 decks +17% synergy
Instants
Void Rend
38% of 3652 decks +24% synergy
Growth Spiral
36% of 19567 decks +14% synergy
Chaos Warp
35% of 13430 decks +3% synergy
Generous Gift
31% of 8112 decks +7% synergy
Brainstorm
28% of 32554 decks +8% synergy
Anguished Unmaking
25% of 3652 decks +1% synergy
Negate
24% of 32554 decks +1% synergy
Mortify
23% of 3652 decks +11% synergy
Entish Restoration
22% of 18276 decks +16% synergy
Heroic Intervention
21% of 19567 decks -9% synergy
Return of the Wildspeaker
20% of 19567 decks +7% synergy
Esper Charm
19% of 3652 decks +17% synergy
Boros Charm
19% of 2533 decks -5% synergy
Squash
18% of 13430 decks +18% synergy
Natural Reclamation
18% of 19567 decks +17% synergy
Harrow
17% of 19567 decks +8% synergy
Crush Underfoot
16% of 13430 decks +16% synergy
Teferi's Protection
16% of 8112 decks -3% synergy
Dovin's Veto
15% of 8112 decks -3% synergy
Lightning Bolt
13% of 13430 decks +2% synergy
Abrade
13% of 13430 decks +2% synergy
Unite the Coalition
13% of 1563 decks +9% synergy
Dawn's Truce
13% of 4656 decks +4% synergy
Dark Ritual
12% of 7909 decks -10% synergy
Arcane Denial
12% of 32554 decks -8% synergy
Stroke of Midnight
12% of 7094 decks +2% synergy
Pongify
12% of 32554 decks +1% synergy
Delayed Blast Fireball
11% of 13430 decks +9% synergy
Assassin's Trophy
11% of 2792 decks -19% synergy
Dig Through Time
11% of 32554 decks +6% synergy
Fall of the Hammer
10% of 13430 decks +10% synergy
Flame of Anor
10% of 12293 decks +6% synergy
Frantic Search
10% of 32554 decks -2% synergy
Eureka Moment
10% of 19567 decks +6% synergy
Reality Shift
10% of 32554 decks +1% synergy
Krosan Grip
10% of 19567 decks +3% synergy
Legion Leadership
10% of 1201 decks +4% synergy
Wear // Tear
10% of 2533 decks +2% synergy
Worldly Tutor
10% of 19567 decks -4% synergy
An Offer You Can't Refuse
9% of 32554 decks -12% synergy
Mana Drain
9% of 32554 decks -6% synergy
Blood for the Blood God!
9% of 2493 decks +6% synergy
Fact or Fiction
9% of 32554 decks +3% synergy
Despark
9% of 3652 decks -6% synergy
Mystic Confluence
9% of 32554 decks +6% synergy
Entomb
9% of 7909 decks +1% synergy
High Tide
9% of 32554 decks +5% synergy
Rapid Hybridization
8% of 32554 decks -1% synergy
Violent Outburst
8% of 8240 decks +8% synergy
Opt
7% of 32554 decks -2% synergy
Sorceries
Nature's Lore
36% of 19567 decks +4% synergy
Rishkar's Expertise
29% of 19567 decks +19% synergy
Three Visits
27% of 19567 decks +2% synergy
Skyshroud Claim
26% of 19567 decks +17% synergy
In Garruk's Wake
25% of 7909 decks +22% synergy
Brilliant Ultimatum
24% of 3652 decks +23% synergy
Call Forth the Tempest
24% of 10597 decks +22% synergy
Ruinous Ultimatum
23% of 1579 decks +5% synergy
Conflux
20% of 1563 decks +16% synergy
Eerie Ultimatum
19% of 1621 decks +7% synergy
Emergent Ultimatum
18% of 2792 decks +15% synergy
Victimize
18% of 7909 decks +6% synergy
Feed the Swarm
17% of 7909 decks -1% synergy
Search for Tomorrow
16% of 19567 decks +13% synergy
Urban Evolution
16% of 19567 decks +12% synergy
Migration Path
15% of 19567 decks +12% synergy
Volcanic Torrent
15% of 13430 decks +14% synergy
Time Wipe
14% of 8112 decks +8% synergy
Breach the Multiverse
14% of 7909 decks +10% synergy
Persist
14% of 7909 decks +12% synergy
Ponder
14% of 32554 decks +2% synergy
Reanimate
14% of 7909 decks -2% synergy
Hit the Mother Lode
14% of 10095 decks +12% synergy
Whelming Wave
13% of 32554 decks +11% synergy
Vindicate
13% of 3652 decks +7% synergy
Austere Command
13% of 8112 decks +0% synergy
Explore
13% of 19567 decks +4% synergy
Cruel Ultimatum
13% of 2493 decks +10% synergy
Last March of the Ents
12% of 18325 decks +8% synergy
Extract from Darkness
12% of 7909 decks +10% synergy
Fire Giant's Fury
12% of 13430 decks +12% synergy
Mizzium Mortars
12% of 13430 decks +10% synergy
Treasure Cruise
12% of 32554 decks +7% synergy
Into the Time Vortex
12% of 10466 decks +11% synergy
Buried Alive
12% of 7909 decks +6% synergy
Villainous Wealth
11% of 2792 decks +3% synergy
Approach of the Second Sun
11% of 8112 decks +7% synergy
Throes of Chaos
11% of 13430 decks +10% synergy
Overwhelming Stampede
11% of 19567 decks +5% synergy
Supreme Verdict
10% of 8112 decks -4% synergy
Chain Reaction
10% of 13430 decks +5% synergy
Decimate
10% of 8240 decks +2% synergy
Explosive Vegetation
10% of 19567 decks +7% synergy
Unmarked Grave
10% of 7909 decks +7% synergy
Aminatou's Augury
10% of 32554 decks +8% synergy
Preordain
10% of 32554 decks -0% synergy
Dread Return
10% of 7909 decks +4% synergy
Culling Ritual
10% of 2792 decks -2% synergy
Vandalblast
9% of 13430 decks -6% synergy
Farewell
9% of 8112 decks -4% synergy
Utility Artifacts
Fist of Suns
28% of 1563 decks +21% synergy
Swiftfoot Boots
26% of 32554 decks -1% synergy
Commander's Sphere
23% of 32554 decks +8% synergy
Lightning Greaves
22% of 32554 decks -3% synergy
The Great Henge
19% of 19567 decks +9% synergy
Mind Stone
15% of 32554 decks -1% synergy
Wayfarer's Bauble
12% of 32554 decks +2% synergy
Sensei's Divining Top
8% of 32554 decks +3% synergy
Sapphire Medallion
8% of 32554 decks +5% synergy
Kefnet's Monument
7% of 32554 decks +6% synergy
Sunforger
6% of 2533 decks +2% synergy
Herald's Horn
6% of 32554 decks -0% synergy
Meteoric Mace
6% of 13430 decks +6% synergy
Chimil, the Inner Sun
6% of 24791 decks +4% synergy
Bident of Thassa
6% of 32554 decks -1% synergy
Crystal Shard
6% of 32554 decks +5% synergy
Hedron Archive
6% of 32554 decks +3% synergy
Door to Nothingness
6% of 1563 decks +2% synergy
Doors of Durin
5% of 7637 decks +3% synergy
Quicksilver Amulet
5% of 32554 decks +5% synergy
Monster Manual
5% of 19567 decks +3% synergy
Enchantments
Up the Beanstalk
34% of 16655 decks +30% synergy
Monstrous Vortex
29% of 11094 decks +27% synergy
Rhythm of the Wild
27% of 8240 decks +3% synergy
Bigger on the Inside
25% of 6535 decks +23% synergy
Warstorm Surge
24% of 13430 decks +19% synergy
Maelstrom Nexus
22% of 1563 decks +15% synergy
Sunbird's Invocation
21% of 13430 decks +19% synergy
Leyline of Mutation
19% of 498 decks +13% synergy
Zendikar Resurgent
17% of 19567 decks +15% synergy
Battle of Frost and Fire
17% of 13430 decks +17% synergy
Kozilek's Unsealing
17% of 18003 decks +15% synergy
Invasion of the Giants
16% of 13430 decks +16% synergy
Brokers Ascendancy
16% of 4452 decks +9% synergy
Mirari's Wake
15% of 4452 decks +2% synergy
Leyline of the Guildpact
14% of 935 decks -2% synergy
Animate Dead
11% of 7909 decks +2% synergy
Elemental Bond
11% of 19567 decks +6% synergy
Omniscience
11% of 32554 decks +8% synergy
Shadow in the Warp
10% of 8240 decks +7% synergy
Debtors' Knell
10% of 3652 decks +9% synergy
Ghostly Prison
9% of 8112 decks -2% synergy
One with the Multiverse
9% of 32554 decks +7% synergy
Heartless Summoning
9% of 7909 decks +8% synergy
Guardian Project
8% of 19567 decks +0% synergy
Penance
8% of 8112 decks +8% synergy
The Lost and the Damned
8% of 13430 decks +6% synergy
Reflections of Littjara
8% of 32554 decks +3% synergy
Virtue of Strength
8% of 16655 decks +5% synergy
Wild Growth
8% of 19567 decks -3% synergy
Virtue of Persistence
7% of 6558 decks +5% synergy
Baneful Omen
7% of 7909 decks +7% synergy
Propaganda
7% of 32554 decks -5% synergy
Quest for Ula's Temple
7% of 32554 decks +7% synergy
Ominous Seas
7% of 32554 decks +4% synergy
Whirlwind of Thought
7% of 2533 decks -3% synergy
Hardened Scales
7% of 19567 decks -2% synergy
Passionate Archaeologist
7% of 13430 decks +5% synergy
Mystic Remora
7% of 32554 decks -11% synergy
Fiery Emancipation
7% of 13430 decks +3% synergy
Mana Reflection
7% of 19567 decks +5% synergy
Sarkhan's Unsealing
7% of 13430 decks +6% synergy
Haunted Crossroads
6% of 7909 decks +6% synergy
Phyrexian Arena
6% of 7909 decks -9% synergy
Exploration
6% of 19567 decks -2% synergy
Annie Joins Up
6% of 891 decks -6% synergy
Leyline of Anticipation
6% of 32554 decks +2% synergy
Sylvan Library
6% of 19567 decks -5% synergy
Mind's Dilation
6% of 32554 decks +5% synergy
Aqueous Form
6% of 32554 decks +2% synergy
Colossal Majesty
6% of 19567 decks +2% synergy
Battles
Invasion of Zendikar
6% of 19418 decks +4% synergy
Planeswalkers
Aminatou, the Fateshifter
30% of 3652 decks +27% synergy
Kiora, Behemoth Beckoner
30% of 19567 decks +26% synergy
Nicol Bolas, God-Pharaoh
9% of 2493 decks +5% synergy
Dakkon, Shadow Slayer
7% of 3652 decks +6% synergy
Elminster
5% of 8112 decks +5% synergy
Utility Lands
Reliquary Tower
46% of 32554 decks +16% synergy
Bojuka Bog
26% of 7909 decks -4% synergy
Mosswort Bridge
25% of 19567 decks +14% synergy
Temple of the False God
24% of 32554 decks +14% synergy
Mortuary Mire
24% of 7909 decks +19% synergy
Rogue's Passage
19% of 32554 decks -1% synergy
Mystic Sanctuary
14% of 32554 decks +3% synergy
Boseiju, Who Endures
14% of 19567 decks -5% synergy
Halimar Depths
13% of 32554 decks +10% synergy
Castle Garenbrig
12% of 19567 decks +8% synergy
Kessig Wolf Run
11% of 8240 decks -5% synergy
Alchemist's Refuge
11% of 19567 decks +4% synergy
Otawara, Soaring City
10% of 32554 decks -6% synergy
Sunhome, Fortress of the Legion
10% of 2533 decks +5% synergy
Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth
10% of 32554 decks +1% synergy
Slayers' Stronghold
8% of 2533 decks +3% synergy
Castle Vantress
8% of 32554 decks +4% synergy
Gavony Township
8% of 4452 decks -1% synergy
Rivendell
7% of 30245 decks +3% synergy
Hall of Storm Giants
6% of 32554 decks +5% synergy
Spinerock Knoll
6% of 13430 decks +2% synergy
Restless Reef
6% of 5888 decks +4% synergy
Takenuma, Abandoned Mire
6% of 7909 decks -4% synergy
Mana Artifacts
Sol Ring
78% of 32554 decks -7% synergy
Arcane Signet
67% of 32554 decks -5% synergy
Dimir Signet
37% of 7909 decks +8% synergy
Izzet Signet
32% of 13430 decks +4% synergy
Talisman of Dominance
27% of 7909 decks -6% synergy
Azorius Signet
24% of 8112 decks -1% synergy
Talisman of Creativity
24% of 13430 decks -5% synergy
Thought Vessel
22% of 32554 decks +5% synergy
Simic Signet
22% of 19567 decks +8% synergy
Orzhov Signet
20% of 3652 decks -7% synergy
Boros Signet
19% of 2533 decks -3% synergy
Timeless Lotus
17% of 1563 decks +5% synergy
Gruul Signet
16% of 8240 decks +4% synergy
Fellwar Stone
15% of 32554 decks -6% synergy
Talisman of Progress
14% of 8112 decks -10% synergy
Thran Dynamo
14% of 32554 decks +9% synergy
Gilded Lotus
13% of 32554 decks +10% synergy
Talisman of Conviction
13% of 2533 decks -10% synergy
Talisman of Curiosity
12% of 19567 decks -1% synergy
Rakdos Signet
12% of 2493 decks -17% synergy
Chromatic Lantern
12% of 32554 decks +2% synergy
Decanter of Endless Water
11% of 32554 decks +7% synergy
Talisman of Hierarchy
11% of 3652 decks -14% synergy
Talisman of Indulgence
9% of 2493 decks -18% synergy
Relic of Sauron
8% of 2241 decks -0% synergy
Obelisk of Esper
8% of 3652 decks +7% synergy
Sky Diamond
8% of 32554 decks +3% synergy
Fire Diamond
7% of 13430 decks +2% synergy
Charcoal Diamond
7% of 7909 decks +2% synergy
Midnight Clock
6% of 32554 decks +1% synergy
Talisman of Impulse
6% of 8240 decks -3% synergy
Worn Powerstone
6% of 32554 decks +3% synergy
Talisman of Unity
5% of 4452 decks -3% synergy
Lands
Command Tower
81% of 32554 decks +7% synergy
Frontier Bivouac
52% of 8240 decks +25% synergy
Hinterland Harbor
46% of 19567 decks +17% synergy
Arcane Sanctum
45% of 3652 decks +16% synergy
Ketria Triome
44% of 8240 decks +12% synergy
Cinder Glade
42% of 8240 decks +4% synergy
Sunken Hollow
41% of 7909 decks +7% synergy
Seaside Citadel
41% of 4452 decks +15% synergy
Sulfur Falls
41% of 13430 decks +9% synergy
Prairie Stream
39% of 8112 decks +5% synergy
Stomping Ground
39% of 8240 decks -1% synergy
Yavimaya Coast
39% of 19567 decks +12% synergy
Breeding Pool
38% of 19567 decks -2% synergy
Exotic Orchard
37% of 32554 decks +2% synergy
Spara's Headquarters
37% of 4452 decks +7% synergy
Temple of Deceit
37% of 7909 decks +20% synergy
Mystic Monastery
37% of 2533 decks +10% synergy
Canopy Vista
36% of 4452 decks -0% synergy
Hallowed Fountain
36% of 8112 decks -5% synergy
Steam Vents
35% of 13430 decks -3% synergy
Temple Garden
35% of 4452 decks -5% synergy
Simic Growth Chamber
35% of 19567 decks +15% synergy
Rejuvenating Springs
35% of 19567 decks +7% synergy
The World Tree
35% of 1563 decks +3% synergy
Watery Grave
34% of 7909 decks -6% synergy
Glacial Fortress
34% of 8112 decks +7% synergy
Zagoth Triome
33% of 2792 decks +3% synergy
Raffine's Tower
33% of 3652 decks +6% synergy
Shivan Reef
32% of 13430 decks +5% synergy
Temple of Mystery
32% of 19567 decks +14% synergy
Opulent Palace
31% of 2792 decks +4% synergy
Temple of Epiphany
31% of 13430 decks +13% synergy
Overgrown Tomb
31% of 2792 decks -11% synergy
Drowned Catacomb
31% of 7909 decks +4% synergy
Dreamroot Cascade
31% of 19567 decks +12% synergy
Temple of Silence
31% of 3652 decks +12% synergy
Rootbound Crag
31% of 8240 decks +6% synergy
Godless Shrine
30% of 3652 decks -11% synergy
Crumbling Necropolis
30% of 2493 decks -1% synergy
Izzet Boilerworks
29% of 13430 decks +13% synergy
Raugrin Triome
28% of 2533 decks +2% synergy
Temple of Enlightenment
28% of 8112 decks +11% synergy
Training Center
27% of 13430 decks +1% synergy
Rockfall Vale
27% of 8240 decks +6% synergy
Evolving Wilds
27% of 32554 decks +6% synergy
Myriad Landscape
27% of 32554 decks +8% synergy
Sea of Clouds
26% of 8112 decks +0% synergy
Blood Crypt
26% of 2493 decks -12% synergy
Sunpetal Grove
26% of 4452 decks +2% synergy
Sacred Foundry
25% of 2533 decks -10% synergy