Activated Sleeper
Karmic Guide
Carrion Feeder

   Prerequisites

What do I need to start this combo?
Carrion Feeder on the battlefield.
Karmic Guide in your graveyard.
Activated Sleeper in hand.
2 available

   Steps

How does this combo work?
1
Cast Activated Sleeper by paying 2, choosing to have it enter the battlefield as a copy of Karmic Guide.
2
Activated Sleeper enters the battlefield, targeting Karmic Guide.
3
Holding priority, activate Carrion Feeder by sacrificing Activated Sleeper, putting a +1/+1 counter on Carrion Feeder.
4
Resolve the Activated Sleeper trigger, returning Karmic Guide from your graveyard to the battlefield.
5
Karmic Guide enters the battlefield, targeting Activated Sleeper.
6
Holding priority, activate Carrion Feeder by sacrificing Karmic Guide, putting a +1/+1 counter on Carrion Feeder.
7
Resolve the Karmic Guide trigger, returning Activated Sleeper from your graveyard to the battlefield as a copy of Karmic Guide.
8
Repeat from step 2.

   Results

What do I get from this combo?
Infinite death triggers
Infinite ETB
Infinite LTB
Infinite sacrifice triggers
Infinite +1/+1 counters on a creature
Kodama of the East Tree // Tymna the Weaver
19%inclusion142 decks761 decks
Karador, Ghost Chieftain
1.5%inclusion93 decks6.05K decks
Nethroi, Apex of Death
1.0%inclusion68 decks6.57K decks
Halana, Kessig Ranger // Tymna the Weaver
16%inclusion61 decks391 decks
Thalia and The Gitrog Monster
0.5%inclusion60 decks11.7K decks
Tana, the Bloodsower // Tymna the Weaver
1.9%inclusion57 decks2.93K decks
Alesha, Who Smiles at Death
0.6%inclusion33 decks5.89K decks
Teysa Karlov
0.1%inclusion21 decks18.5K decks
Bane, Lord of Darkness
0.9%inclusion20 decks2.29K decks
Sefris of the Hidden Ways
0.1%inclusion14 decks10.1K decks
Elmar, Ulvenwald Informant // Wernog, Rider's Chaplain
1.1%inclusion12 decks1.06K decks
Othelm, Sigardian Outcast // Wernog, Rider's Chaplain
1.0%inclusion10 decks1.01K decks
Felothar, Dawn of the Abzan
0.2%inclusion9 decks4.48K decks
Ghave, Guru of Spores
0.1%inclusion9 decks7.19K decks
Frodo, Adventurous Hobbit // Sam, Loyal Attendant
0.0%inclusion9 decks20.7K decks
Kenrith, the Returned King
0.0%inclusion6 decks27.3K decks
Teneb, the Harvester
0.6%inclusion6 decks971 decks
Terra, Herald of Hope
0.0%inclusion5 decks11.1K decks
New Cards
Hexing Squelcher
43%inclusion3 decks7 decks
39%synergy
Badgermole Cub
27%inclusion28 decks103 decks
22%synergy
The Cabbage Merchant
23%inclusion35 decks155 decks
21%synergy
Formidable Speaker
8.1%inclusion10 decks124 decks
7%synergy
Abundant Countryside
4.2%inclusion1 decks24 decks
3%synergy
High Synergy Cards
Protean Hulk
92%inclusion534 decks581 decks
90%synergy
Viscera Seer
95%inclusion676 decks715 decks
86%synergy
Pattern of Rebirth
69%inclusion399 decks581 decks
68%synergy
Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
69%inclusion90 decks130 decks
66%synergy
Avacyn's Pilgrim
76%inclusion444 decks581 decks
64%synergy
Eldritch Evolution
68%inclusion393 decks581 decks
63%synergy
Goblin Bombardment
68%inclusion88 decks130 decks
62%synergy
Elves of Deep Shadow
70%inclusion409 decks581 decks
62%synergy
Noble Hierarch
76%inclusion13 decks17 decks
61%synergy
Ignoble Hierarch
84%inclusion71 decks85 decks
59%synergy
Top Cards
Birds of Paradise
86%inclusion497 decks581 decks
58%synergy
Swords to Plowshares
72%inclusion516 decks715 decks
11%synergy
Deathrite Shaman
70%inclusion408 decks581 decks
59%synergy
Grand Abolisher
65%inclusion462 decks715 decks
55%synergy
Eladamri's Call
62%inclusion358 decks581 decks
53%synergy
Esper Sentinel
59%inclusion425 decks715 decks
40%synergy
Abrupt Decay
58%inclusion338 decks581 decks
48%synergy
Delighted Halfling
58%inclusion337 decks581 decks
46%synergy
Reveillark
56%inclusion399 decks715 decks
55%synergy
Body Double
55%inclusion34 decks62 decks
54%synergy
Game Changers
Demonic Tutor
61%inclusion436 decks715 decks
41%synergy
Worldly Tutor
59%inclusion341 decks581 decks
46%synergy
Vampiric Tutor
57%inclusion405 decks715 decks
41%synergy
Gaea's Cradle
54%inclusion313 decks581 decks
48%synergy
Enlightened Tutor
50%inclusion359 decks715 decks
35%synergy
Orcish Bowmasters
49%inclusion352 decks715 decks
41%synergy
Opposition Agent
48%inclusion341 decks715 decks
42%synergy
Chrome Mox
44%inclusion316 decks715 decks
38%synergy
Drannith Magistrate
44%inclusion313 decks715 decks
39%synergy
Survival of the Fittest
38%inclusion220 decks581 decks
36%synergy
Creatures
Ranger-Captain of Eos
52%inclusion374 decks715 decks
48%synergy
Voice of Victory
51%inclusion188 decks369 decks
44%synergy
Mayhem Devil
50%inclusion65 decks130 decks
40%synergy
Lotho, Corrupt Shirriff
48%inclusion343 decks715 decks
35%synergy
Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy
47%inclusion8 decks17 decks
43%synergy
Academy Rector
44%inclusion316 decks715 decks
44%synergy
Saffi Eriksdotter
44%inclusion254 decks581 decks
43%synergy
Mulldrifter
44%inclusion27 decks62 decks
39%synergy
Llanowar Elves
42%inclusion245 decks581 decks
22%synergy
Collector Ouphe
41%inclusion236 decks581 decks
39%synergy
Elvish Spirit Guide
40%inclusion233 decks581 decks
36%synergy
Archivist of Oghma
40%inclusion285 decks715 decks
35%synergy
Imperial Recruiter
39%inclusion51 decks130 decks
35%synergy
Samwise Gamgee
39%inclusion227 decks581 decks
36%synergy
Sylvan Safekeeper
38%inclusion222 decks581 decks
34%synergy
Felidar Guardian
38%inclusion272 decks715 decks
36%synergy
Endurance
38%inclusion218 decks581 decks
35%synergy
Elvish Mystic
37%inclusion217 decks581 decks
21%synergy
Elas il-Kor, Sadistic Pilgrim
37%inclusion267 decks715 decks
28%synergy
Glasspool Mimic
37%inclusion23 decks62 decks
34%synergy
Kutzil, Malamet Exemplar
37%inclusion213 decks581 decks
22%synergy
Eternal Witness
36%inclusion212 decks581 decks
19%synergy
Dauthi Voidwalker
35%inclusion253 decks715 decks
29%synergy
Bloom Tender
35%inclusion204 decks581 decks
28%synergy
Phantasmal Image
34%inclusion21 decks62 decks
31%synergy
Body Snatcher
33%inclusion239 decks715 decks
33%synergy
Fyndhorn Elves
32%inclusion187 decks581 decks
22%synergy
Cauldron Familiar
32%inclusion230 decks715 decks
31%synergy
Blood Artist
31%inclusion224 decks715 decks
20%synergy
Zulaport Cutthroat
31%inclusion219 decks715 decks
22%synergy
Aven Mindcensor
30%inclusion211 decks715 decks
26%synergy
Greater Gargadon
28%inclusion37 decks130 decks
28%synergy
Simian Spirit Guide
28%inclusion37 decks130 decks
23%synergy
Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer
27%inclusion35 decks130 decks
19%synergy
Drana and Linvala
26%inclusion188 decks715 decks
22%synergy
Luminous Broodmoth
26%inclusion183 decks715 decks
23%synergy
Delney, Streetwise Lookout
24%inclusion175 decks715 decks
21%synergy
Enduring Vitality
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18%synergy
Baleful Strix
24%inclusion15 decks62 decks
11%synergy
Murderous Redcap
24%inclusion31 decks130 decks
22%synergy
Atraxa, Grand Unifier
24%inclusion4 decks17 decks
19%synergy
Archon of Emeria
23%inclusion161 decks715 decks
21%synergy
Solitude
22%inclusion160 decks715 decks
21%synergy
Restoration Angel
22%inclusion158 decks715 decks
20%synergy
Sidisi, Undead Vizier
21%inclusion152 decks715 decks
20%synergy
Phyrexian Metamorph
21%inclusion13 decks62 decks
13%synergy
Sun Titan
20%inclusion145 decks715 decks
12%synergy
Faeburrow Elder
20%inclusion115 decks581 decks
9%synergy
Body Launderer
19%inclusion137 decks715 decks
19%synergy
Acererak the Archlich
19%inclusion137 decks715 decks
19%synergy
Instants
Assassin's Trophy
54%inclusion316 decks581 decks
24%synergy
Deflecting Swat
53%inclusion69 decks130 decks
36%synergy
Chord of Calling
52%inclusion303 decks581 decks
47%synergy
Silence
51%inclusion366 decks715 decks
45%synergy
Crop Rotation
43%inclusion247 decks581 decks
33%synergy
Red Elemental Blast
42%inclusion54 decks130 decks
36%synergy
Entomb
41%inclusion295 decks715 decks
34%synergy
Pyroblast
37%inclusion48 decks130 decks
31%synergy
Veil of Summer
35%inclusion203 decks581 decks
30%synergy
Dark Ritual
32%inclusion230 decks715 decks
8%synergy
Path to Exile
31%inclusion220 decks715 decks
-16%synergy
An Offer You Can't Refuse
26%inclusion16 decks62 decks
1%synergy
Fire Covenant
25%inclusion33 decks130 decks
23%synergy
Deadly Rollick
25%inclusion176 decks715 decks
11%synergy
Counterspell
24%inclusion15 decks62 decks
-18%synergy
Force of Vigor
23%inclusion136 decks581 decks
20%synergy
Void Rend
23%inclusion14 decks62 decks
8%synergy
Frantic Search
19%inclusion12 decks62 decks
5%synergy
Fierce Guardianship
19%inclusion12 decks62 decks
1%synergy
Culling the Weak
19%inclusion137 decks715 decks
15%synergy
Dovin's Veto
18%inclusion11 decks62 decks
-1%synergy
Thrill of Possibility
18%inclusion23 decks130 decks
8%synergy
Negate
16%inclusion10 decks62 decks
-5%synergy
Unwanted Remake
15%inclusion84 decks565 decks
14%synergy
Flusterstorm
11%inclusion7 decks62 decks
4%synergy
Force of Will
11%inclusion7 decks62 decks
1%synergy
Swan Song
11%inclusion7 decks62 decks
-6%synergy
Anguished Unmaking
10%inclusion71 decks715 decks
-15%synergy
Mental Misstep
10%inclusion6 decks62 decks
4%synergy
Pact of Negation
10%inclusion6 decks62 decks
3%synergy
Arcane Denial
10%inclusion6 decks62 decks
-11%synergy
Lightning Bolt
9.2%inclusion12 decks130 decks
-2%synergy
Sink into Stupor
8.6%inclusion5 decks58 decks
-2%synergy
Fell the Profane
8.6%inclusion55 decks642 decks
0%synergy
Demand Answers
8.5%inclusion11 decks130 decks
3%synergy
Autumn's Veil
8.3%inclusion48 decks581 decks
7%synergy
Mindbreak Trap
8.1%inclusion5 decks62 decks
3%synergy
Force of Negation
8.1%inclusion5 decks62 decks
0%synergy
Noxious Revival
7.9%inclusion46 decks581 decks
3%synergy
Nature's Claim
7.4%inclusion43 decks581 decks
0%synergy
Chaos Warp
6.9%inclusion9 decks130 decks
-23%synergy
Orim's Chant
6.6%inclusion47 decks715 decks
5%synergy
Gifts Ungiven
6.5%inclusion4 decks62 decks
5%synergy
Fact or Fiction
6.5%inclusion4 decks62 decks
2%synergy
Cyclonic Rift
6.5%inclusion4 decks62 decks
-16%synergy
Grisly Salvage
6.4%inclusion37 decks581 decks
1%synergy
Tibalt's Trickery
6.2%inclusion8 decks130 decks
1%synergy
Wear // Tear
6.2%inclusion8 decks130 decks
-1%synergy
Abrade
6.2%inclusion8 decks130 decks
-5%synergy
Untimely Malfunction
6.1%inclusion6 decks98 decks
-2%synergy
Sorceries
Diabolic Intent
51%inclusion362 decks715 decks
43%synergy
Finale of Devastation
49%inclusion283 decks581 decks
41%synergy
Reanimate
43%inclusion311 decks715 decks
25%synergy
Neoform
41%inclusion7 decks17 decks
37%synergy
Nature's Rhythm
38%inclusion115 decks301 decks
34%synergy
Imperial Seal
34%inclusion241 decks715 decks
28%synergy
Natural Order
33%inclusion191 decks581 decks
31%synergy
Culling Ritual
33%inclusion191 decks581 decks
22%synergy
Faithless Looting
28%inclusion37 decks130 decks
12%synergy
Buried Alive
27%inclusion195 decks715 decks
21%synergy
Unmarked Grave
24%inclusion169 decks715 decks
21%synergy
Wargate
18%inclusion3 decks17 decks
15%synergy
Gamble
15%inclusion20 decks130 decks
6%synergy
Cathartic Reunion
15%inclusion19 decks130 decks
12%synergy
Supreme Verdict
15%inclusion9 decks62 decks
2%synergy
Victimize
14%inclusion103 decks715 decks
2%synergy
Dread Return
14%inclusion102 decks715 decks
9%synergy
Green Sun's Zenith
13%inclusion75 decks581 decks
8%synergy
Toxic Deluge
13%inclusion91 decks715 decks
-6%synergy
Sevinne's Reclamation
13%inclusion90 decks715 decks
5%synergy
Persist
12%inclusion86 decks715 decks
10%synergy
Damn
11%inclusion79 decks715 decks
-4%synergy
Lively Dirge
10%inclusion67 decks670 decks
8%synergy
Windfall
10%inclusion6 decks62 decks
-2%synergy
Life from the Loam
10%inclusion56 decks581 decks
5%synergy
Living Death
8.7%inclusion62 decks715 decks
3%synergy
Agadeem's Awakening
7.3%inclusion52 decks715 decks
4%synergy
Farseek
7.2%inclusion42 decks581 decks
-29%synergy
Thrilling Discovery
6.9%inclusion9 decks130 decks
5%synergy
Nature's Lore
6.9%inclusion40 decks581 decks
-25%synergy
Life // Death
6.2%inclusion36 decks581 decks
5%synergy
Tormenting Voice
6.2%inclusion8 decks130 decks
4%synergy
Incarnation Technique
5.5%inclusion39 decks715 decks
4%synergy
Chain of Smog
5.5%inclusion39 decks715 decks
4%synergy
Unearth
5.0%inclusion36 decks715 decks
2%synergy
Utility Artifacts
Birthing Pod
48%inclusion276 decks581 decks
46%synergy
Altar of Dementia
31%inclusion225 decks715 decks
29%synergy
Ashnod's Altar
21%inclusion151 decks715 decks
15%synergy
The One Ring
17%inclusion118 decks715 decks
8%synergy
Wishclaw Talisman
16%inclusion114 decks715 decks
11%synergy
Phyrexian Altar
15%inclusion107 decks715 decks
11%synergy
Skullclamp
15%inclusion106 decks715 decks
4%synergy
Brass's Tunnel-Grinder
6.9%inclusion9 decks130 decks
5%synergy
Mesmeric Orb
6.0%inclusion43 decks715 decks
5%synergy
Hedge Shredder
5.2%inclusion24 decks464 decks
2%synergy
Enchantments
Carpet of Flowers
44%inclusion258 decks581 decks
41%synergy
Animate Dead
39%inclusion278 decks715 decks
30%synergy
Deafening Silence
36%inclusion258 decks715 decks
34%synergy
Sylvan Library
33%inclusion190 decks581 decks
23%synergy
Necromancy
32%inclusion232 decks715 decks
29%synergy
Mystic Remora
26%inclusion16 decks62 decks
9%synergy
Rhystic Study
21%inclusion13 decks62 decks
-3%synergy
Touch the Spirit Realm
19%inclusion139 decks715 decks
17%synergy
Aluren
19%inclusion111 decks581 decks
19%synergy
Wild Growth
19%inclusion110 decks581 decks
9%synergy
Smothering Tithe
17%inclusion123 decks715 decks
-4%synergy
Dance of the Dead
16%inclusion113 decks715 decks
14%synergy
Birthing Ritual
13%inclusion68 decks521 decks
12%synergy
Ripples of Undeath
12%inclusion77 decks641 decks
7%synergy
Trouble in Pairs
10%inclusion74 decks711 decks
6%synergy
Stronghold Arena
10%inclusion57 decks581 decks
9%synergy
High Noon
9.2%inclusion11 decks120 decks
8%synergy
Utopia Sprawl
7.9%inclusion46 decks581 decks
0%synergy
Impact Tremors
7.7%inclusion10 decks130 decks
-2%synergy
Underworld Breach
6.9%inclusion9 decks130 decks
1%synergy
Lurking Predators
6.9%inclusion40 decks581 decks
6%synergy
Blind Obedience
6.3%inclusion45 decks715 decks
0%synergy
Blood Moon
5.4%inclusion7 decks130 decks
3%synergy
Bastion of Remembrance
5.2%inclusion37 decks715 decks
-1%synergy
Battles
Invasion of Ikoria
18%inclusion105 decks581 decks
15%synergy
Planeswalkers
Vivien on the Hunt
17%inclusion100 decks581 decks
17%synergy
Grist, the Hunger Tide
15%inclusion88 decks581 decks
11%synergy
Tyvar, Jubilant Brawler
9.1%inclusion53 decks581 decks
6%synergy
Utility Lands
Boseiju, Who Endures
65%inclusion377 decks581 decks
46%synergy
Shifting Woodland
47%inclusion243 decks522 decks
40%synergy
Phyrexian Tower
46%inclusion327 decks715 decks
37%synergy
Ancient Tomb
43%inclusion308 decks715 decks
34%synergy
Otawara, Soaring City
23%inclusion14 decks62 decks
6%synergy
High Market
17%inclusion122 decks715 decks
14%synergy
Takenuma, Abandoned Mire
16%inclusion117 decks715 decks
8%synergy
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
16%inclusion117 decks715 decks
7%synergy
Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth
16%inclusion113 decks715 decks
7%synergy
Bojuka Bog
14%inclusion98 decks715 decks
-16%synergy
Cephalid Coliseum
11%inclusion7 decks62 decks
8%synergy
Dryad Arbor
11%inclusion64 decks581 decks
7%synergy
Cabal Pit
10%inclusion69 decks715 decks
9%synergy
Mystic Sanctuary
6.5%inclusion4 decks62 decks
-4%synergy
Emergence Zone
5.6%inclusion40 decks715 decks
3%synergy
Urza's Saga
5.3%inclusion38 decks715 decks
-2%synergy
Eiganjo, Seat of the Empire
5.2%inclusion37 decks715 decks
-2%synergy
Dakmor Salvage
5.0%inclusion36 decks715 decks
3%synergy
Mana Artifacts
Sol Ring
90%inclusion644 decks715 decks
6%synergy
Arcane Signet
45%inclusion323 decks715 decks
-27%synergy
Lotus Petal
43%inclusion307 decks715 decks
36%synergy
Mox Diamond
37%inclusion264 decks715 decks
33%synergy
Mana Vault
26%inclusion185 decks715 decks
20%synergy
Talisman of Dominance
24%inclusion15 decks62 decks
-9%synergy
Talisman of Indulgence
24%inclusion31 decks130 decks
-4%synergy
Talisman of Conviction
23%inclusion30 decks130 decks
-1%synergy
Talisman of Progress
23%inclusion14 decks62 decks
-3%synergy
Fellwar Stone
15%inclusion108 decks715 decks
-5%synergy
Dimir Signet
15%inclusion9 decks62 decks
-11%synergy
Rakdos Signet
13%inclusion17 decks130 decks
-12%synergy
Talisman of Hierarchy
13%inclusion90 decks715 decks
-14%synergy
Boros Signet
12%inclusion16 decks130 decks
-7%synergy
Azorius Signet
11%inclusion7 decks62 decks
-11%synergy
Mana Crypt
10%inclusion68 decks715 decks
7%synergy
Orzhov Signet
8.3%inclusion59 decks715 decks
-15%synergy
Talisman of Resilience
7.7%inclusion45 decks581 decks
-5%synergy
Jeweled Lotus
5.3%inclusion38 decks715 decks
4%synergy
Talisman of Unity
5.2%inclusion30 decks581 decks
-2%synergy
Lands
Command Tower
96%inclusion683 decks715 decks
21%synergy
Overgrown Tomb
85%inclusion491 decks581 decks
44%synergy
Temple Garden
83%inclusion483 decks581 decks
44%synergy
Godless Shrine
74%inclusion527 decks715 decks
33%synergy
Marsh Flats
73%inclusion523 decks715 decks
62%synergy
Taiga
68%inclusion58 decks85 decks
55%synergy
Windswept Heath
68%inclusion484 decks715 decks
57%synergy
Verdant Catacombs
67%inclusion482 decks715 decks
56%synergy
Exotic Orchard
67%inclusion477 decks715 decks
30%synergy
Bayou
60%inclusion347 decks581 decks
46%synergy
Savannah
59%inclusion342 decks581 decks
46%synergy
Breeding Pool
59%inclusion10 decks17 decks
17%synergy
City of Brass
56%inclusion401 decks715 decks
49%synergy
Mana Confluence
54%inclusion385 decks715 decks
47%synergy
Bloodstained Mire
54%inclusion383 decks715 decks
42%synergy
Hallowed Fountain
53%inclusion33 decks62 decks
14%synergy
Wooded Foothills
51%inclusion364 decks715 decks
40%synergy
Scrubland
50%inclusion358 decks715 decks
36%synergy
Watery Grave
50%inclusion31 decks62 decks
9%synergy
Polluted Delta
49%inclusion352 decks715 decks
37%synergy
Misty Rainforest
48%inclusion342 decks715 decks
36%synergy
Arid Mesa
48%inclusion341 decks715 decks
37%synergy
Badlands
48%inclusion62 decks130 decks
34%synergy
Undergrowth Stadium
48%inclusion276 decks581 decks
24%synergy
Flooded Strand
47%inclusion339 decks715 decks
36%synergy
Tropical Island
47%inclusion8 decks17 decks
33%synergy
Bountiful Promenade
46%inclusion270 decks581 decks
24%synergy
Plateau
45%inclusion58 decks130 decks
33%synergy
Gemstone Caverns
44%inclusion313 decks715 decks
39%synergy
Blood Crypt
42%inclusion54 decks130 decks
4%synergy
Arcane Sanctum
40%inclusion25 decks62 decks
12%synergy
Vault of Champions
39%inclusion277 decks715 decks
15%synergy
Steam Vents
38%inclusion5 decks13 decks
1%synergy
Raffine's Tower
37%inclusion23 decks62 decks
12%synergy
Stomping Ground
36%inclusion31 decks85 decks
-5%synergy
Sacred Foundry
35%inclusion45 decks130 decks
-2%synergy
Sunken Hollow
32%inclusion20 decks62 decks
-2%synergy
The World Tree
31%inclusion4 decks13 decks
2%synergy
Adarkar Wastes
31%inclusion19 decks62 decks
7%synergy
Glacial Fortress
31%inclusion19 decks62 decks
-2%synergy
Caves of Koilos
29%inclusion210 decks715 decks
0%synergy
Lush Portico
29%inclusion170 decks580 decks
20%synergy
Prairie Stream
29%inclusion18 decks62 decks
-4%synergy
Underground River
27%inclusion17 decks62 decks
5%synergy
Sea of Clouds
27%inclusion17 decks62 decks
3%synergy
Horizon Canopy
26%inclusion150 decks581 decks
21%synergy
Drowned Catacomb
26%inclusion16 decks62 decks
-3%synergy
Llanowar Wastes
25%inclusion145 decks581 decks
-2%synergy
Volcanic Island
23%inclusion3 decks13 decks
9%synergy
Isolated Chapel
23%inclusion165 decks715 decks
-10%synergy