Lae'zel, Vlaakith's Champion
Jace, Cunning Castaway
Carth the Lion

   Prerequisites

What do I need to start this combo?
Jace in hand.
Lae'zel and Carth the Lion on the battlefield.
1 available

   Steps

How does this combo work?
1
Cast Jace by paying 1.
2
Jace enters the battlefield with four loyalty counters due to Lae'zel.
3
Activate Jace's third loyalty ability by removing four loyalty counters from it.
4
Jace dies as a state-based action due to having zero loyalty.
5
Resolve the Jace ability, creating two non-legendary copies of Jace, which enter with four loyalty counters each due to Lae'zel.
6
Repeat from step 3 using a Jace token.
7
Once you have infinite Jace tokens, you may activate their second loyalty abilities by removing two loyalty counters from them, creating infinite 2/2 Illusion creature tokens.

   Results

What do I get from this combo?
Infinite creature tokens
Infinite ETB
Infinite Jace, Cunning Castaway tokens
Atraxa, Praetors' Voice
0.2%inclusion95 decks38.3K decks
Esika, God of the Tree
0.4%inclusion79 decks21.6K decks
Sisay, Weatherlight Captain
0.2%inclusion39 decks15.7K decks
Jodah, the Unifier
0.1%inclusion21 decks26.4K decks
Jared Carthalion
0.2%inclusion10 decks4.74K decks
Ramos, Dragon Engine
0.1%inclusion8 decks10.5K decks
Atraxa, Grand Unifier
0.0%inclusion3 decks15.9K decks
Jegantha, the Wellspring
0.1%inclusion2 decks1.49K decks
Niv-Mizzet Reborn
0.0%inclusion2 decks4.20K decks
Kenrith, the Returned King
0.0%inclusion2 decks27.3K decks
Omnath, Locus of All
0.0%inclusion2 decks13.6K decks
Garth One-Eye
0.0%inclusion1 decks4.76K decks
Jodah, Archmage Eternal
0.0%inclusion1 decks8.46K decks
Thrasios, Triton Hero // Tymna the Weaver
0.0%inclusion1 decks9.25K decks
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91%inclusion242 decks266 decks
88%synergy
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92%inclusion153 decks167 decks
88%synergy
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81%inclusion216 decks266 decks
80%synergy
The Chain Veil
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62%synergy
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56%synergy
Top Cards
Doubling Season
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51%synergy
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51%synergy
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47%synergy
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40%synergy
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15%synergy
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39%synergy
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20%synergy
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6%synergy
Noble Hierarch
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7%synergy
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9%synergy
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-7%synergy
Anguished Unmaking
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-14%synergy
Semester's End
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8%synergy
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-15%synergy
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-11%synergy
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19%synergy
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17%synergy
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-1%synergy
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-16%synergy
Rampant Growth
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-17%synergy
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Triumphant Reckoning
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5%synergy
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6%synergy
Karn's Temporal Sundering
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6%synergy
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3%synergy
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3%synergy
Austere Command
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-7%synergy
Genesis Ultimatum
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1%synergy
Contentious Plan
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4%synergy
Utility Artifacts
Rings of Brighthearth
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24%synergy
Luxior, Giada's Gift
17%inclusion46 decks266 decks
17%synergy
Contagion Engine
13%inclusion34 decks266 decks
12%synergy
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Lightning Greaves
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-16%synergy
Sword of Truth and Justice
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5%synergy
Thran Temporal Gateway
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5%synergy
Enchantments
Oath of Gideon
36%inclusion97 decks266 decks
36%synergy
Oath of Ajani
33%inclusion87 decks266 decks
32%synergy
Inexorable Tide
32%inclusion85 decks266 decks
29%synergy
Innkeeper's Talent
21%inclusion45 decks211 decks
17%synergy
All Will Be One
16%inclusion26 decks167 decks
13%synergy
Urza Assembles the Titans
15%inclusion39 decks266 decks
14%synergy
Oath of Jace
15%inclusion39 decks266 decks
14%synergy
Teferi's Talent
15%inclusion39 decks266 decks
14%synergy
Rowan's Talent
13%inclusion21 decks167 decks
12%synergy
Leyline of the Guildpact
13%inclusion20 decks160 decks
-3%synergy
Oath of Liliana
12%inclusion33 decks266 decks
12%synergy
Propaganda
10%inclusion27 decks266 decks
-3%synergy
Ghostly Prison
10%inclusion26 decks266 decks
-2%synergy
Mystic Remora
10%inclusion26 decks266 decks
-7%synergy
Oath of Kaya
9.0%inclusion24 decks266 decks
9%synergy
Sylvan Library
9.0%inclusion24 decks266 decks
0%synergy
As Foretold
7.1%inclusion19 decks266 decks
5%synergy
Resourceful Defense
6.0%inclusion16 decks266 decks
4%synergy
Sphere of Safety
6.0%inclusion16 decks266 decks
2%synergy
Whirlwind of Thought
5.4%inclusion9 decks167 decks
-4%synergy
Dueling Grounds
5.3%inclusion14 decks266 decks
5%synergy
Planeswalkers
Aminatou, the Fateshifter
45%inclusion119 decks266 decks
42%synergy
Elspeth, Sun's Champion
42%inclusion112 decks266 decks
38%synergy
Teferi, Time Raveler
42%inclusion112 decks266 decks
36%synergy
Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
39%inclusion105 decks266 decks
38%synergy
The Eternal Wanderer
39%inclusion104 decks266 decks
37%synergy
Wrenn and Realmbreaker
37%inclusion99 decks266 decks
36%synergy
Kaya the Inexorable
36%inclusion95 decks266 decks
34%synergy
Teferi, Who Slows the Sunset
35%inclusion94 decks266 decks
34%synergy
Teferi, Hero of Dominaria
34%inclusion90 decks266 decks
32%synergy
Chandra, Legacy of Fire
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33%synergy
Ashiok, Dream Render
31%inclusion83 decks266 decks
28%synergy
Ajani Steadfast
30%inclusion80 decks266 decks
29%synergy
Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
28%inclusion46 decks167 decks
26%synergy
Narset Transcendent
27%inclusion73 decks266 decks
27%synergy
Ajani, Sleeper Agent
27%inclusion71 decks266 decks
25%synergy
Liliana, Dreadhorde General
27%inclusion71 decks266 decks
23%synergy
Ajani, the Greathearted
24%inclusion65 decks266 decks
22%synergy
Vronos, Masked Inquisitor
24%inclusion63 decks266 decks
23%synergy
Kasmina, Enigma Sage
22%inclusion59 decks266 decks
22%synergy
Ajani Unyielding
21%inclusion56 decks266 decks
20%synergy
Chandra, Torch of Defiance
21%inclusion35 decks167 decks
19%synergy
Sarkhan the Masterless
20%inclusion34 decks167 decks
20%synergy
Ral Zarek
20%inclusion34 decks167 decks
19%synergy
Dihada, Binder of Wills
20%inclusion34 decks167 decks
16%synergy
Tamiyo, the Moon Sage
19%inclusion51 decks266 decks
19%synergy
Narset of the Ancient Way
19%inclusion31 decks167 decks
16%synergy
Chandra, Awakened Inferno
17%inclusion29 decks167 decks
16%synergy
Vraska, Relic Seeker
17%inclusion45 decks266 decks
16%synergy
Jace, the Mind Sculptor
17%inclusion45 decks266 decks
16%synergy
Vraska the Unseen
17%inclusion45 decks266 decks
16%synergy
Tamiyo, Compleated Sage
16%inclusion43 decks266 decks
15%synergy
Venser, the Sojourner
16%inclusion43 decks266 decks
15%synergy
Kiora, the Crashing Wave
16%inclusion42 decks266 decks
15%synergy
The Wanderer
15%inclusion41 decks266 decks
15%synergy
Dovin Baan
14%inclusion36 decks266 decks
13%synergy
Jace, Unraveler of Secrets
13%inclusion35 decks266 decks
13%synergy
Kasmina, Enigmatic Mentor
12%inclusion33 decks266 decks
12%synergy
Tezzeret, Artifice Master
12%inclusion32 decks266 decks
11%synergy
Tamiyo, Collector of Tales
12%inclusion32 decks266 decks
11%synergy
Tevesh Szat, Doom of Fools
12%inclusion32 decks266 decks
11%synergy
Geyadrone Dihada
12%inclusion20 decks167 decks
11%synergy
Saheeli Rai
11%inclusion19 decks167 decks
10%synergy
Saheeli, Sublime Artificer
11%inclusion19 decks167 decks
8%synergy
Ajani, Mentor of Heroes
11%inclusion29 decks266 decks
10%synergy
Liliana Vess
11%inclusion28 decks266 decks
10%synergy
Nissa, Ascended Animist
11%inclusion28 decks266 decks
9%synergy
Garruk, Apex Predator
10%inclusion27 decks266 decks
9%synergy
Tezzeret the Seeker
10%inclusion27 decks266 decks
8%synergy
Vraska, Golgari Queen
10%inclusion27 decks266 decks
8%synergy
Sorin, Grim Nemesis
10%inclusion26 decks266 decks
9%synergy
Utility Lands
Karn's Bastion
59%inclusion156 decks266 decks
54%synergy
Interplanar Beacon
52%inclusion138 decks266 decks
51%synergy
Great Hall of the Citadel
20%inclusion53 decks266 decks
19%synergy
Reliquary Tower
20%inclusion53 decks266 decks
-10%synergy
Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth
15%inclusion41 decks266 decks
7%synergy
Cascading Cataracts
11%inclusion30 decks266 decks
10%synergy
Nesting Grounds
10%inclusion26 decks266 decks
8%synergy
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
10%inclusion26 decks266 decks
1%synergy
Boseiju, Who Endures
10%inclusion26 decks266 decks
-9%synergy
Otawara, Soaring City
7.9%inclusion21 decks266 decks
-9%synergy
Maze of Ith
7.5%inclusion20 decks266 decks
5%synergy
Bojuka Bog
5.6%inclusion15 decks266 decks
-24%synergy
Dreadship Reef
5.3%inclusion14 decks266 decks
5%synergy
Takenuma, Abandoned Mire
5.3%inclusion14 decks266 decks
-4%synergy
Mana Artifacts
Sol Ring
86%inclusion229 decks266 decks
2%synergy
Arcane Signet
85%inclusion227 decks266 decks
13%synergy
Chromatic Lantern
58%inclusion153 decks266 decks
49%synergy
Fellwar Stone
37%inclusion98 decks266 decks
16%synergy
Astral Cornucopia
25%inclusion66 decks266 decks
24%synergy
Replicating Ring
19%inclusion51 decks266 decks
18%synergy
Everflowing Chalice
19%inclusion51 decks266 decks
15%synergy
Mox Amber
18%inclusion49 decks266 decks
14%synergy
Timeless Lotus
18%inclusion30 decks167 decks
8%synergy
Gatewatch Beacon
18%inclusion47 decks266 decks
17%synergy
Commander's Sphere
14%inclusion37 decks266 decks
1%synergy
Chromatic Orrery
12%inclusion31 decks266 decks
10%synergy
Aetheric Amplifier
11%inclusion16 decks141 decks
11%synergy
The Aetherspark
9.2%inclusion13 decks142 decks
8%synergy
Honor-Worn Shaku
8.3%inclusion22 decks266 decks
8%synergy
Relic of Legends
6.8%inclusion18 decks266 decks
4%synergy
Staff of Compleation
6.4%inclusion17 decks266 decks
5%synergy
Lands
Command Tower
94%inclusion250 decks266 decks
20%synergy
Exotic Orchard
66%inclusion176 decks266 decks
30%synergy
The World Tree
47%inclusion78 decks167 decks
18%synergy
Hallowed Fountain
47%inclusion124 decks266 decks
7%synergy
Breeding Pool
46%inclusion123 decks266 decks
5%synergy
Temple Garden
44%inclusion118 decks266 decks
6%synergy
Watery Grave
43%inclusion115 decks266 decks
2%synergy
Godless Shrine
43%inclusion114 decks266 decks
2%synergy
Overgrown Tomb
41%inclusion109 decks266 decks
1%synergy
Flooded Strand
40%inclusion106 decks266 decks
29%synergy
Windswept Heath
39%inclusion103 decks266 decks
28%synergy
Misty Rainforest
37%inclusion99 decks266 decks
26%synergy
Indatha Triome
36%inclusion97 decks266 decks
8%synergy
Verdant Catacombs
36%inclusion96 decks266 decks
25%synergy
Marsh Flats
35%inclusion94 decks266 decks
25%synergy
Spara's Headquarters
35%inclusion92 decks266 decks
6%synergy
Zagoth Triome
33%inclusion89 decks266 decks
5%synergy
Polluted Delta
33%inclusion88 decks266 decks
21%synergy
Stomping Ground
33%inclusion55 decks167 decks
-8%synergy
Steam Vents
30%inclusion50 decks167 decks
-8%synergy
Sacred Foundry
29%inclusion49 decks167 decks
-7%synergy
Raffine's Tower
29%inclusion77 decks266 decks
4%synergy
Ketria Triome
27%inclusion45 decks167 decks
-4%synergy
Mana Confluence
24%inclusion65 decks266 decks
17%synergy
City of Brass
24%inclusion64 decks266 decks
17%synergy
Jetmir's Garden
24%inclusion40 decks167 decks
-5%synergy
Raugrin Triome
23%inclusion39 decks167 decks
-1%synergy
Plaza of Heroes
23%inclusion62 decks266 decks
21%synergy
Reflecting Pool
21%inclusion57 decks266 decks
16%synergy
Path of Ancestry
21%inclusion57 decks266 decks
-1%synergy
Seaside Citadel
21%inclusion56 decks266 decks
-6%synergy
Rejuvenating Springs
21%inclusion55 decks266 decks
-7%synergy
Blood Crypt
20%inclusion33 decks167 decks
-18%synergy
Arid Mesa
20%inclusion52 decks266 decks
9%synergy
Scalding Tarn
19%inclusion51 decks266 decks
8%synergy
Evolving Wilds
19%inclusion51 decks266 decks
-2%synergy
Opulent Palace
19%inclusion51 decks266 decks
-9%synergy
Savai Triome
19%inclusion32 decks167 decks
-6%synergy
Bountiful Promenade
19%inclusion50 decks266 decks
-4%synergy
Ziatora's Proving Ground
19%inclusion31 decks167 decks
-9%synergy
Wooded Foothills
18%inclusion49 decks266 decks
8%synergy
Sea of Clouds
18%inclusion48 decks266 decks
-7%synergy
Sandsteppe Citadel
18%inclusion47 decks266 decks
-8%synergy
Undergrowth Stadium
17%inclusion46 decks266 decks
-6%synergy
Jungle Shrine
17%inclusion28 decks167 decks
-15%synergy
Morphic Pool
17%inclusion44 decks266 decks
-8%synergy
Frontier Bivouac
16%inclusion27 decks167 decks
-12%synergy
Vault of Champions
16%inclusion43 decks266 decks
-8%synergy
Arcane Sanctum
16%inclusion43 decks266 decks
-12%synergy
Prairie Stream
16%inclusion43 decks266 decks
-17%synergy